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]]> By: Ted http://piestar.net/2009/08/18/know-your-enemy/#comment-2686 Ted Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:51:18 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=186#comment-2686 There's no such thing as a fair comparison between Windows and Linux from the FOSS crowd. No fact shall remain untwisted, no semantic loophole left unused. When it comes to features; Windows only has a browser, media player and simple utilities. Linux has Office suites, mail servers, web servers, IDEs and DVDs worth of applications. However, when it's bug count, Windows suddenly also includes Office, Exchange, Visual Studio, two instances of SQL Server, IIS and Photoshop. Linux is just a kernel. Add a feature to Linux? Best feature ever, can't live without it. Add a feature to Windows? Bloat! Copied from Apple! Anti-trust! Any feature not in Windows? Why isn't this feature in? Any feature not in Linux? You didn't need it anyway! Windows Aero? Resource hungry, useless eye-candy. Compiz? Absolute must-have! Spinning cubes! (For those that say Compiz/Ruby was first or is better, Google "Vista wobbly windows WinHec 2003". Note how the windows don't tear when moved, unlike Compiz!) Benchmarks from established and trusted sources, with reproducible methodology that show Windows is better - shills, FUD, lies, MS paid for results, corrupt. Benchmark from random blog with questionable (if any) methodology showing Linux is better - holy gospel truth. Windows bluescreens several times a day. Kernel panics do not exist. Any Windows-only program = unoriginal, buggy, useless rubbish. Linux programs - Original, innovative, not in fact, clones of successful Windows apps. Copying interface changes from Windows apps into the OSS clones is OK, even though they're much maligned in the Windows version... I'm looking at you, OpenOffice. If they're so crap, why clone them? It's OK to infringe copyrights of music and films, but don't dare violate the GPL. It's copyright, you know. The double standards exhibited are staggering. There’s no such thing as a fair comparison between Windows and Linux from the FOSS crowd. No fact shall remain untwisted, no semantic loophole left unused.

When it comes to features; Windows only has a browser, media player and simple utilities. Linux has Office suites, mail servers, web servers, IDEs and DVDs worth of applications.

However, when it’s bug count, Windows suddenly also includes Office, Exchange, Visual Studio, two instances of SQL Server, IIS and Photoshop. Linux is just a kernel.

Add a feature to Linux? Best feature ever, can’t live without it.
Add a feature to Windows? Bloat! Copied from Apple! Anti-trust!

Any feature not in Windows? Why isn’t this feature in?
Any feature not in Linux? You didn’t need it anyway!

Windows Aero? Resource hungry, useless eye-candy.
Compiz? Absolute must-have! Spinning cubes!

(For those that say Compiz/Ruby was first or is better, Google “Vista wobbly windows WinHec 2003″. Note how the windows don’t tear when moved, unlike Compiz!)

Benchmarks from established and trusted sources, with reproducible methodology that show Windows is better – shills, FUD, lies, MS paid for results, corrupt.
Benchmark from random blog with questionable (if any) methodology showing Linux is better – holy gospel truth.

Windows bluescreens several times a day.
Kernel panics do not exist.

Any Windows-only program = unoriginal, buggy, useless rubbish.
Linux programs – Original, innovative, not in fact, clones of successful Windows apps.

Copying interface changes from Windows apps into the OSS clones is OK, even though they’re much maligned in the Windows version… I’m looking at you, OpenOffice. If they’re so crap, why clone them?

It’s OK to infringe copyrights of music and films, but don’t dare violate the GPL. It’s copyright, you know.

The double standards exhibited are staggering.

]]> By: Anon http://piestar.net/2009/08/18/know-your-enemy/#comment-2642 Anon Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:10:38 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=186#comment-2642 Thomas, that's the point of the challenge; nobody is expected to beat it. Thomas, that’s the point of the challenge; nobody is expected to beat it.

]]> By: Thomas B. http://piestar.net/2009/08/18/know-your-enemy/#comment-2637 Thomas B. Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:54:18 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=186#comment-2637 Kerberos, I will probably fail that challenge, so I'm not attempting it. Kerberos, I will probably fail that challenge, so I’m not attempting it.

]]> By: Anon http://piestar.net/2009/08/18/know-your-enemy/#comment-2631 Anon Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:09:46 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=186#comment-2631 There already is a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClosedBSD" rel="nofollow">ClosedBSD</a>, or was, at any rate. There already is a ClosedBSD, or was, at any rate.

]]> By: Roogie http://piestar.net/2009/08/18/know-your-enemy/#comment-2623 Roogie Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:04:43 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=186#comment-2623 Turns out that Microsoft actually owns (as in property) FreeBSD. They should rename it ClosedBSD. Turns out that Microsoft actually owns (as in property) FreeBSD. They should rename it ClosedBSD.

]]> By: Anon http://piestar.net/2009/08/18/know-your-enemy/#comment-2618 Anon Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:29:49 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=186#comment-2618 Don't forget being called a paid MS shill on the count of praising Solaris or FreeBSD, that's my favourite. Don’t forget being called a paid MS shill on the count of praising Solaris or FreeBSD, that’s my favourite.

]]> By: Kerberos http://piestar.net/2009/08/18/know-your-enemy/#comment-2597 Kerberos Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:01:48 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=186#comment-2597 Thomas: A freetard is someone that believes all software should be free and/or that FOSS is inherently superior simply though it's open source nature. If you don't fit these criteria then this really wasn't aimed at you. I am afraid I have to start branding the whole 'community' (mainly the tech and forum board lurkers) as idiots though since even though the vocal minority are the worst freetards, the silent majority does nothing and says nothing about their behaviour. If you went on a forum such as slashdot, ubuntuforums, or anywhere like that and tried to make an argument against the party line you'd be called a troll/shill in seconds irrespective of your point. Give it a try. Oh, and any more progress on the challenge? http://piestar.net/2009/08/11/this-is-why-linux-sucks-a-challenge Thomas: A freetard is someone that believes all software should be free and/or that FOSS is inherently superior simply though it’s open source nature. If you don’t fit these criteria then this really wasn’t aimed at you.

I am afraid I have to start branding the whole ‘community’ (mainly the tech and forum board lurkers) as idiots though since even though the vocal minority are the worst freetards, the silent majority does nothing and says nothing about their behaviour.

If you went on a forum such as slashdot, ubuntuforums, or anywhere like that and tried to make an argument against the party line you’d be called a troll/shill in seconds irrespective of your point. Give it a try.

Oh, and any more progress on the challenge?
http://piestar.net/2009/08/11/this-is-why-linux-sucks-a-challenge

]]> By: Thomas B. http://piestar.net/2009/08/18/know-your-enemy/#comment-2590 Thomas B. Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:52:05 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=186#comment-2590 Kerberos, too, I commend your writing, but the constant finger pointing and being called a freetard is getting old. Not all Linux users are "Windoze hating n00bs." As you know, Kerberos, I might be biased towards Linux loving, but I do give other operating systems some good treatment. It might not be equal, but at least I'm not running around calling every Windows user an idiot. Kerberos, too, I commend your writing, but the constant finger pointing and being called a freetard is getting old. Not all Linux users are “Windoze hating n00bs.” As you know, Kerberos, I might be biased towards Linux loving, but I do give other operating systems some good treatment. It might not be equal, but at least I’m not running around calling every Windows user an idiot.

]]> By: Thomas B. http://piestar.net/2009/08/18/know-your-enemy/#comment-2588 Thomas B. Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:10:30 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=186#comment-2588 I'm really looking forward to Win7. I tried it out through Virtual Box, unfortunately I didn't get the time to make a full partition for it. I think that Windows 7 is going to gain back a lot of the people's support for Microsoft. I’m really looking forward to Win7. I tried it out through Virtual Box, unfortunately I didn’t get the time to make a full partition for it. I think that Windows 7 is going to gain back a lot of the people’s support for Microsoft.

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