Comments on: What if they had a revolution, but nobody came? http://piestar.net/2009/09/21/what-if-they-had-a-revolution/ A pragmatic look at the state of FOSS Sat, 11 Sep 2010 00:20:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Conzo http://piestar.net/2009/09/21/what-if-they-had-a-revolution/#comment-8671 Conzo Fri, 06 Aug 2010 07:01:35 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=245#comment-8671 @Kirby L "FOSS OSs are virtually worthless unless you DO in fact do most of your work on the command line" -- Exactly !!! That's the entire point that J. Random Linuxfan fails to get parsed by the overwanked set of nerve cells within their cranium. Unix/Linux was, is and always will be an excellent system for the kind of work you do on the command line. For all else, it sucks by design. The continuous bleating about how Linux rocks the desktop only gives it a very bad name. @Kirby L “FOSS OSs are virtually worthless unless you DO in fact do most of your work on the command line” — Exactly !!! That’s the entire point that J. Random Linuxfan fails to get parsed by the overwanked set of nerve cells within their cranium. Unix/Linux was, is and always will be an excellent system for the kind of work you do on the command line. For all else, it sucks by design. The continuous bleating about how Linux rocks the desktop only gives it a very bad name.

]]> By: Kirby L. Wallace http://piestar.net/2009/09/21/what-if-they-had-a-revolution/#comment-3774 Kirby L. Wallace Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:41:57 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=245#comment-3774 So.... Free Software Day came and went... again. I use some free software. And some of it is quite good. My favourite source editor is FOSS (Notepad++). My favourite desktop utility (DexPot) is FOSS. I use Audacity. By and large, though, I do not use a LOT of free software because, by and large, for the most part... Free software is crap. Now if you WANT to believe that it is not crap, then there's little that can be done. But the number one reason whay I do not use it as a mainstay is simply this - best expressed on a website I saw recently called "Windows 7 Sins". Quote: "To use free software is to make a political and ethical choice..." And that... right there... is why I do not use it. For the majority of FOSSils I know, their main intent in using it is simply to "stick it" to Microsoft. To most of them, it's vive le revolucion and all that. Fight the power! I'm not interested. Give me good software that really is useful and I will use it. But I'm not gonna join the revolution "simply because....." I think doing so is dangerous anyway, to the very core of their goals and designs. Their intent is to empower users? Let's face it: Microsoft has the market on desktop operating systems. And a fair claim to the developer market too. Seeking damage upon MS in the name of "freedom!" will have the effect of backfiring. If we do enough damage to MS, what happens to their desktop OS market? If it shrinks, what will step in and offer that level of utility? Ubuntu? Fedora? I don't think so. Lets face if - all the Unix derived OSs are still just that: UNIX DERIVED. The learning curve is significantly higher and you still (no matter how pretty Ubuntu is), you still will get almost nowhere until you have mastered quite a few cryptic command lines. In fact, all these FOSS OSs are virtually worthless unless you DO in fact do most of your work on the command line. Ubuntu is great so long as you want to do absolutely NOTHING that it doesn't do right out of the digital box. So…. Free Software Day came and went… again. I use some free software. And some of it is quite good. My favourite source editor is FOSS (Notepad++). My favourite desktop utility (DexPot) is FOSS. I use Audacity.

By and large, though, I do not use a LOT of free software because, by and large, for the most part… Free software is crap. Now if you WANT to believe that it is not crap, then there’s little that can be done.

But the number one reason whay I do not use it as a mainstay is simply this – best expressed on a website I saw recently called “Windows 7 Sins”. Quote:

“To use free software is to make a political and ethical choice…”

And that… right there… is why I do not use it. For the majority of FOSSils I know, their main intent in using it is simply to “stick it” to Microsoft. To most of them, it’s vive le revolucion and all that. Fight the power!

I’m not interested.

Give me good software that really is useful and I will use it. But I’m not gonna join the revolution “simply because…..”

I think doing so is dangerous anyway, to the very core of their goals and designs. Their intent is to empower users? Let’s face it: Microsoft has the market on desktop operating systems. And a fair claim to the developer market too. Seeking damage upon MS in the name of “freedom!” will have the effect of backfiring. If we do enough damage to MS, what happens to their desktop OS market? If it shrinks, what will step in and offer that level of utility? Ubuntu? Fedora? I don’t think so.

Lets face if – all the Unix derived OSs are still just that: UNIX DERIVED. The learning curve is significantly higher and you still (no matter how pretty Ubuntu is), you still will get almost nowhere until you have mastered quite a few cryptic command lines. In fact, all these FOSS OSs are virtually worthless unless you DO in fact do most of your work on the command line. Ubuntu is great so long as you want to do absolutely NOTHING that it doesn’t do right out of the digital box.

]]> By: Anonymous http://piestar.net/2009/09/21/what-if-they-had-a-revolution/#comment-3772 Anonymous Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:12:36 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=245#comment-3772 HEY! YOU! BLOG-OWNER! When are we getting some updates from you?? Really.. I just wanna know wether i should keep checking back, or if you have no intentions of writing a post. ever. HEY! YOU! BLOG-OWNER!
When are we getting some updates from you?? Really.. I just wanna know wether i should keep checking back, or if you have no intentions of writing a post. ever.

]]> By: Thomas B Hater http://piestar.net/2009/09/21/what-if-they-had-a-revolution/#comment-3583 Thomas B Hater Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:52:41 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=245#comment-3583 All it took was a ton of "stop using linux" and "Thomas B sucks cock" posts to make Thomas B run away like the three year old freetard he is. THOMAS B SUCKS AFRICAN GORILLA COCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All it took was a ton of “stop using linux” and “Thomas B sucks cock” posts to make Thomas B run away like the three year old freetard he is.

THOMAS B SUCKS AFRICAN GORILLA COCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Thomas B. http://piestar.net/2009/09/21/what-if-they-had-a-revolution/#comment-3562 Thomas B. Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:44:00 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=245#comment-3562 You're an asshole. You’re an asshole.

]]> By: Thomas B Hater http://piestar.net/2009/09/21/what-if-they-had-a-revolution/#comment-3561 Thomas B Hater Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:22:28 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=245#comment-3561 Thomas B is a stupid little freetard doomed to have is ass raped with a flaming chainsaw. Pretending he's one of us won't help. Thomas B is a stupid little freetard doomed to have is ass raped with a flaming chainsaw. Pretending he’s one of us won’t help.

]]> By: Thomas B. http://piestar.net/2009/09/21/what-if-they-had-a-revolution/#comment-3558 Thomas B. Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:50:20 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=245#comment-3558 <a href='http://mpscripts.co.nr/blog' rel="nofollow">Click here. The official blog of Thomas B, Teh 1337 Blog. You can see my latest posts on how the Linux community sucks.</a> Click here. The official blog of Thomas B, Teh 1337 Blog. You can see my latest posts on how the Linux community sucks.

]]> By: Thomas B. http://piestar.net/2009/09/21/what-if-they-had-a-revolution/#comment-3549 Thomas B. Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:27:18 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=245#comment-3549 http://linuxevangelism.blogspot.com/2009/10/cool-stuff.html?showComment=1255199104551#c2597599912556878621 http://linuxevangelism.blogspot.com/2009/10/cool-stuff.html?showComment=1255199104551#c2597599912556878621

]]> By: Nobody http://piestar.net/2009/09/21/what-if-they-had-a-revolution/#comment-3548 Nobody Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:21:11 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=245#comment-3548 Oops, I missed the end of my sentence (twice! I even proof-read it before submitting! What a day...) The combination of... ...is what did me in hope-wise. It ushered me into the "final stage of freetard" if you will- denial I ever was involved with that crap. Sorry for any confusion. Oops, I missed the end of my sentence (twice! I even proof-read it before submitting! What a day…)

The combination of… …is what did me in hope-wise. It ushered me into the “final stage of freetard” if you will- denial I ever was involved with that crap.

Sorry for any confusion.

]]> By: Nobody http://piestar.net/2009/09/21/what-if-they-had-a-revolution/#comment-3547 Nobody Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:19:31 +0000 http://piestar.net/?p=245#comment-3547 "There are also the dual license options, but this is effectively shareware, and you are still making money selling closed source software." I think the combination of people bitching about Qt's dual-licensing (make that tri-licensing now) and KDE's stubbornness to not fully support Windows (as in, the most-used OS on the planet, the *platform* that could actually bring their software to USERS) with KDE 4.x. Seriously, no system tray in Plasma for Windows? But I digress. They'll never support big business, it'll always be big business supporting them. Always. And the fact they're engaging in FOSS won't be out-front with the businesses (except when it's good PR) ala Dell. It simply doesn't work. Nice article :) “There are also the dual license options, but this is effectively shareware, and you are still making money selling closed source software.”

I think the combination of people bitching about Qt’s dual-licensing (make that tri-licensing now) and KDE’s stubbornness to not fully support Windows (as in, the most-used OS on the planet, the *platform* that could actually bring their software to USERS) with KDE 4.x. Seriously, no system tray in Plasma for Windows? But I digress.

They’ll never support big business, it’ll always be big business supporting them. Always. And the fact they’re engaging in FOSS won’t be out-front with the businesses (except when it’s good PR) ala Dell. It simply doesn’t work.

Nice article :)

]]>