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	<title>Comments on: Stick a fork in the music industry, it&#8217;s done.</title>
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		<title>By: BuckMighty</title>
		<link>http://piestar.net/2009/11/09/stick-a-fork-in-the-music-industry-its-done/#comment-4987</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckMighty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Jesus....the poor fucking music industry.  Fuck them.  Piracy is not a threat at all.  If it were, there wouldn&#039;t be a music industry any longer.  They need the piracy.  They support the piracy.  There are plenty of artists that you cannot DL at all...but most you can.  Explain that.  Why is it I can get almost all of Mariah Carey&#039;s bullshit somewhere and then to DL anything decent by anyone decent is close to impossible?  In fact, in some cases it is impossible.  Try getting Martha Berner stuff.  Only her lesser songs are gettable, on youtube from guest appearances on Letterman or Good Morning Vietnam or whatever it is.  There is no way to get her good songs other than to buy them.  So...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Jesus&#8230;.the poor fucking music industry.  Fuck them.  Piracy is not a threat at all.  If it were, there wouldn&#8217;t be a music industry any longer.  They need the piracy.  They support the piracy.  There are plenty of artists that you cannot DL at all&#8230;but most you can.  Explain that.  Why is it I can get almost all of Mariah Carey&#8217;s bullshit somewhere and then to DL anything decent by anyone decent is close to impossible?  In fact, in some cases it is impossible.  Try getting Martha Berner stuff.  Only her lesser songs are gettable, on youtube from guest appearances on Letterman or Good Morning Vietnam or whatever it is.  There is no way to get her good songs other than to buy them.  So&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kirby L. Wallace</title>
		<link>http://piestar.net/2009/11/09/stick-a-fork-in-the-music-industry-its-done/#comment-3918</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirby L. Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once went looking for an MP3 of Captain John Handy&#039;s &quot;Hard Work&quot; song.  All I had was an mp3 rip I had made of an OLD (ie, 1970&#039;s) cassette tape, that sounded awful.  I eventually found a decent copy in mp3 format from somewhere...  And dl&#039;d it.

In an effort to explain why I did not feel like I had done anything wrong, I suggested it this way, in an hypothetical question to the music industry:

&lt;i&gt;How can you accuse me of stealing from you, something which you do not sell?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;


Or... more properly, &quot;something which does not exist?&quot; (in anticipation of &quot;well, my car is not for sale either.  Are you gonna take that??&quot;)

If the thing even simply existed to be purchased, I&#039;d buy it.  But there is TONS of stuff from the old days that was great stuff that I want in modern format, but they simply have not made it.  What alternative do they offer along with their complaint?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once went looking for an MP3 of Captain John Handy&#8217;s &#8220;Hard Work&#8221; song.  All I had was an mp3 rip I had made of an OLD (ie, 1970&#8242;s) cassette tape, that sounded awful.  I eventually found a decent copy in mp3 format from somewhere&#8230;  And dl&#8217;d it.</p>
<p>In an effort to explain why I did not feel like I had done anything wrong, I suggested it this way, in an hypothetical question to the music industry:</p>
<p><i>How can you accuse me of stealing from you, something which you do not sell?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Or&#8230; more properly, &#8220;something which does not exist?&#8221; (in anticipation of &#8220;well, my car is not for sale either.  Are you gonna take that??&#8221;)</p>
<p>If the thing even simply existed to be purchased, I&#8217;d buy it.  But there is TONS of stuff from the old days that was great stuff that I want in modern format, but they simply have not made it.  What alternative do they offer along with their complaint?</p>
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		<title>By: Tux Sux</title>
		<link>http://piestar.net/2009/11/09/stick-a-fork-in-the-music-industry-its-done/#comment-3892</link>
		<dc:creator>Tux Sux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Digital piracy, while a genuine threat, has obscured logical thinking in this never ending debate. Plenty of industries are not as profitable as they once were, but most of them blame consumer trends, economic factors, and mounting competition. Newspapers, for example, fit into this mold. What the music industry doesn&#039;t seem to understand is &lt;b&gt;it isn&#039;t coming back&lt;/b&gt; because it&#039;s not all about the piracy. Movies have risen in cost, too, but they still provide a product: a theater experience and a product that&#039;s difficult to acquire even in piracy (cams don&#039;t count). Video games represent an unstoppable entertainment industry force, and plain old internet browsing and chatting fill even more holes that once held music. There is just so much more competition vying for entertainment dollar and time these days.

Focusing solely on piracy as a given cause of the music industry&#039;s illegitimate downfall has obscured thinking that piracy may, in fact, be a symptom. iTunes has showed that a revenue model can work. Many people feel $1/song more than offsets the hassle of piracy, along with the added value the iTunes ecosystem provides (very smart on Apple&#039;s part). But, as you explained, the music industry doesn&#039;t want to hear this and prefers to retreat back to selling platter &quot;albums&quot; and paying off radio disc jockeys. Do real disc jockeys even exist anymore? Are today&#039;s teenagers even aware of the existence of radio?

Some 10-15 years ago the music industry would have been wise to take a page from Microsoft&#039;s book and considered the pirated copies another form of competition. This line of thinking would have left them free to prosecute high value pirates but would have also put their frames of mind into considering what it is about their business model that attracts pirates and how they could capture that market with legitimate products.

But the solution isn&#039;t complicated: lower your prices. Because high prices are always what motivates illegal trade. Don&#039;t want to do it? Tough. Everybody else is. Want some ideas? Instead of contracting artists for 1-2 million dollars and requiring them to produce an entire album plus music video plus promotion, give them much less money (perhaps only for studio costs, which, let&#039;s face it, isn&#039;t much of a &quot;cost&quot; given they own the studios) for a handful of songs and a much higher cut of royalties. This puts the burden of competition onto the artists themselves, which is what they want anyway. Most of the promotion costs are poorly spent. Producing music videos and signing contracts with MTV are antiquated methods of getting the message out. Instead, pay modern venues like iTunes, Last.fm, Pandora, and Sirius to play your music for free with a $1 for a downloadable copy. Yeah, people will still use DownloadHelper to extract the song and put it on eMule/SoulSeek/Pirate Bay, but ignore them--we need to see the forest from the trees here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Digital piracy, while a genuine threat, has obscured logical thinking in this never ending debate. Plenty of industries are not as profitable as they once were, but most of them blame consumer trends, economic factors, and mounting competition. Newspapers, for example, fit into this mold. What the music industry doesn&#8217;t seem to understand is <b>it isn&#8217;t coming back</b> because it&#8217;s not all about the piracy. Movies have risen in cost, too, but they still provide a product: a theater experience and a product that&#8217;s difficult to acquire even in piracy (cams don&#8217;t count). Video games represent an unstoppable entertainment industry force, and plain old internet browsing and chatting fill even more holes that once held music. There is just so much more competition vying for entertainment dollar and time these days.</p>
<p>Focusing solely on piracy as a given cause of the music industry&#8217;s illegitimate downfall has obscured thinking that piracy may, in fact, be a symptom. iTunes has showed that a revenue model can work. Many people feel $1/song more than offsets the hassle of piracy, along with the added value the iTunes ecosystem provides (very smart on Apple&#8217;s part). But, as you explained, the music industry doesn&#8217;t want to hear this and prefers to retreat back to selling platter &#8220;albums&#8221; and paying off radio disc jockeys. Do real disc jockeys even exist anymore? Are today&#8217;s teenagers even aware of the existence of radio?</p>
<p>Some 10-15 years ago the music industry would have been wise to take a page from Microsoft&#8217;s book and considered the pirated copies another form of competition. This line of thinking would have left them free to prosecute high value pirates but would have also put their frames of mind into considering what it is about their business model that attracts pirates and how they could capture that market with legitimate products.</p>
<p>But the solution isn&#8217;t complicated: lower your prices. Because high prices are always what motivates illegal trade. Don&#8217;t want to do it? Tough. Everybody else is. Want some ideas? Instead of contracting artists for 1-2 million dollars and requiring them to produce an entire album plus music video plus promotion, give them much less money (perhaps only for studio costs, which, let&#8217;s face it, isn&#8217;t much of a &#8220;cost&#8221; given they own the studios) for a handful of songs and a much higher cut of royalties. This puts the burden of competition onto the artists themselves, which is what they want anyway. Most of the promotion costs are poorly spent. Producing music videos and signing contracts with MTV are antiquated methods of getting the message out. Instead, pay modern venues like iTunes, Last.fm, Pandora, and Sirius to play your music for free with a $1 for a downloadable copy. Yeah, people will still use DownloadHelper to extract the song and put it on eMule/SoulSeek/Pirate Bay, but ignore them&#8211;we need to see the forest from the trees here.</p>
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