03.04
It’s got to the point where it’s almost not worth the hassle of even mentioning when Ubuntu decides they are doing a new theme and/or rebrand, as every 6 months like clockwork they announce they are ‘rethinking the UI paradigm’ or some such nonsense, then trot out the same rubbish again.
Anyway here’s the desktop from this announcement, and guess what? It’s exactly the same and still has all the problems it’s always had. What progress!
Apparently the latest innovation is to remove any method of viewing running programs. Check the screenshots – where did the taskbar go to? I also like the consistancy of moving the close buttons to the left, but keeping the orientation the same as Windows, so no matter if you are a convert from OSX or Windows you will still be confused. Nothing quite like change for changes sake.
Just the usual ‘cargo cult usability’ we’ve come to expect and love from the FOSS brigade – tries to look like a Mac, works like Windows – nothing to see here, lets wait for the announcement 6 months from now about how they are ‘rethinking the UI paradigm’. I am sure they’ll get it right that time.
Ubuntu’s priorities have always been eyecandy over usability. It would be nice if we got PulseAudio working, or didn’t break something whenever we upgrade, but clearly they’re after an OS which looks fine in screenshots but has fuckall functionality. Welcome to Linux.
@Moe – I have no idea who you are and why you are attempting to ask personal questions about me on a blog that has nothing to do with me in real life what-so-ever. Plus you obviously don’t know me and if you do, use the contact details I have provided.
Plus whois data is only who it is registered to, not who it actually is.
It’s amazing how the wonderful and freedom loving FOSS community is so quick to try to attack people in the real world to try to stifle contrary opinions. I suppose it is the inevitable road of an essentially communist philosophy.
That’s because the FOSS is becoming more cult like as time progress. *shivers*
At least they’re not a successful cult like Scientology. *shiver*
Here I am downloading it… they could of at least gave it a dock!
A colour change is the only thing preventing Ubuntu from achieving world domination
Sigh.
I really like the new theme. It looks really elegant
I love Ubuntu, but this is retarded. If this is 10.04, I want no part.
@ Thomas B. (the one with the dot at the end and the penguin avatar)
You like a mix of orange, light brown, grey, “copper” and purple?
I think I vomited something that looked better than that…
Oh and the buttons on the mac side but in the wrong order makes me sad just how stupid they are.
If you want something that won’t make you puke after awhile, I suggest doing what everybody does and either switch to kde (which looks good by default) or go to gnome-look (careful, you might just get a virus MUHAHAHA) and looking for a theme.
You’ll find a better one in less than 3 seconds.
Speaking of buttons, due to the failings of the windeco those gutters look ridiculous for applications that only have minimize/close actions. Instead of rounding at the second button it just cuts off.
I hate Ubuntu. It’s based on debian which I also hate because it doesn’t have automatic dependency resolution in aptitude. You can go on my blog and read more and then comment.
@Thomas B,
You don’t know what you’re talking about, as usual. Also; what’s wrong? I thought Linux was the epitome of OS design, dependency hell shouldn’t exist! Freeject.
Only if you use a program that can automatically fix dependencies. Aptitude doesn’t. It sucks.
Also keep in mind that Sun buying Oracle is the obvious next move for a company like that. You can read about it on my blog and comment all you want.
Who the fuck is Moe?
Freetardism is a thinly veiled communism. That’s why freetards are all Zeitgeist fans. It really should get banned by the Senate Committee for Un-American Activities. Software must have some kind of government mandated price controls or software developers will lose their jobs.
I guess they missed the memo about how most people don’t like orange. If at first you fail, fail harder to make your prior fail seem like a win.
@Matt,
Honestly, I agree about the Communism part, and this is coming from a Ubuntu user. Reading this blog, plus its comments, reminds myself or why I kind of like the system…and why I hate it. It’s somewhat the closest thing I will get to MAC OS X while still being able to personally build my own computer. It’s user base is beyond horrible though.
@Roogie,
I kind of like orange. Better than brown in my humble opinion.
Pretty good article on Ubuntu:
http://shelleytherepublican.com/2007/08/18/ubuntu-%E2%80%93-why-it-is-wrong-for-america.aspx
Wow. I’m shocked. You’ve really outdone yourself this time Karabros. You and your hatetards are complaining because one Ubuntu release is just a change of color? Well take a look at every release put out by the illegal monopoly and tell me there not all just color changes. The double standard exhibited by the follower of science here is amazing. It just proves how stupid hatetards are.
Josesph, I hope you’re being sarcastic. The person who wrote that article is clearly computer illiterate.
Having installed the files, the Ubuntards had saved the worst for last: It’s network installation was preposterous, requiring me to input all manner of numbers called “IP Addresses”. These are silly dotted numbers like 10.1.1.256.432. Why should any of this be required to use the Internet?
Yes Kerberos, don’t forget who is credited for creating the first user interface either… (hint: it wasn’t Microsoft).
If you really don’t like the theme, it’s as simple as right clicking on the desktop and going to “Change Desktop Background”. At this window, you’ll find a bunch of themes preinstalled that you’re bound to like. Unlike with Windows, where you only get 3 themes to choose from: Aero, Basic, and Classic. And installing themes in Windows is a pain in the ass. I don’t know if it’s like this in Win 7, but installing themes in XP and Vista required that you patched a file.
Shut the fuck up you freeject scum. Educate yourself about Loonix:
http://shelleytherepublican.com/2007/02/28/linux-the-official-os-of-the-axis-of-evil.aspx
I noticed none of the hatetards bothered to respond to my point. Does that mean they agree that every Windows release put out by the illegal monopoly is just another color change?
“I noticed none of the hatetards bothered to respond to my point. Does that mean they agree that every Windows release put out by the illegal monopoly is just another color change?”
You mean like how XP was a massive departure in both functionality and looks from 98?
Or how vista was a massive departure in both functionality and looks from XP?
Or how 7 did not change the colors AT ALL?
I rest my case Queefer, grow a brain.
Oh and Thomas, the funny thing is that pretty much every theme over 50% on gnome-look is better than that abomination of a theme.
[...] Just so you know I’m not just being picky, here’s a few more people who’d like to weigh in: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. [...]
Same old desktop, same old start menu, same old notepad, same old illegal monopoly shit. Radical departure my ass.
“You and your hatetards are complaining because one Ubuntu release is just a change of color?”
You have appalling reading comprehension skills. He’s not complaining that it’s just a colour change, he’s complaining that Ubuntu are proclaiming it to be a Great Big New Thing while all it really is is a colour change and a half-baked rip-off of OSX.
“Well take a look at every release put out by the illegal monopoly and tell me there not all just color changes.”
What illegal monopoly? You keep saying it, but it still is NOT FUCKING TRUE by any measure.
If anyone says Vista was just a theme update to XP, they’re either blind, ignorant, or biased. Huge parts of WIndows were completely re-written – new networking stack, new driver model, new audio stack. New things were added – desktop compositing, UAC, desktop search. Even Windows 7 can’t be called a service pack to Vista – loads of stuff was re-done, and new features added. These are major releases, with thousands of people working on them and they represent YEARS of work.
Ubuntu versions are six months apart and have maybe a hundred people (if I’m generous) working on them. We’re supposed to believe 10.04 is going to be anything other than a glorified service pack with a new theme?
By the way, at least new Windows versions are TESTED before release, have backwards compatibility and mostly just work. Ubuntu 9.10 was a complete fucking abortion.
“The double standard exhibited by the follower of science here is amazing. It just proves how stupid hatetards are.”
What double-standard? He’s holding Ubuntu to the same standard that you and the other LY hold Microsoft.
“Same old desktop, same old start menu, same old notepad, same old illegal monopoly shit. Radical departure my ass.”
Same old 1970′s technology X server, same old no-stable-ABI-or-driver-API kernel, same old no backwards compatibility, same old GNOME, same old not-as-good-as-Office-XP OpenOffice, same old ten-years-behind-Photoshop GIMP, same old can’t-hold-a-candle-to-Visual-Studio GCC and GDB, same old zealotry, same old bullshit.
Good job pwning those hatetards Adam.
X server 1970s technology?
More like 1870s technology lol.
See I can make up stuff too!
While I apologize for not being able to track down the source, here’s an interesting AppleInsider article I found regarding the Apple/HTC lawsuit:
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/03/12/open_source_community_hopelessly_confused_by_apple_htc_suit.html
Basic gist of it is that the open source community largely doesn’t understand that economics play a larger role in the production of software than ideology. While I don’t necessarily agree with the analyst’s view that there’s no value proposition in producing open-source software (I think it’s largely the same value as the ‘academic world’ he mentions, where you deal in accolades rather than dollars *if you’re VERY lucky*), I think he’s got the right idea when it comes to the necessity of economic consideration.
Parts may have been rewritten but they function exactly the same. The illegal monopoly was just looking for things to not-change so their change log looks huge. Linux, on the other hand, is honest.
Oh yes, the same old start menu that they’ve changed in every release since XP.
Changed? More like just barely. That’s why 7 is just a service pack. You’re reenforcing my point hatetard.
same old illegal monopoly shit.
Haha, Adam Queef, you’re so transparent. You are SnickerDouche and WhoisAssassin, are you going to reveal my identity to somehow refute the unstable API/ABI arguments? “illegal monopoly” is an Adam Queef trademark!
“Parts may have been rewritten but they function exactly the same.”
They work BETTER. Vista added per-application volume control. 7′s DWM uses half the memory of Vista’s.
Comapre to most of Linux, where stuff gets changed or re-written (or most likely another hack goes on top to abstract things out AGAIN) and things actually get worse.
“The illegal monopoly”
You’re a dolt. You keep saying this, without a shred of proof. It does not matter how many times you trot it out, it is still NOT FUCKING TRUE and will not miraculously become true. You know what madness is sometimes defined as? “Doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result.” That’s pretty much what you’re doing.
Microsoft aren’t even a monopoly, legal or not.
AT&T were a monopoly. If you didn’t like AT&T, you either wrote a letter or hoped you could shout loud enough.
If you don’t like Microsoft? Buy a Mac. Buy a bare-metal PC and install whatever the fuck you want on it.
If you want to prove that Microsoft are an “illegal monopoly” link to ONE court document that says they are. Even one that says they’re a “monopoly”, and not merely “dominant”.
And always remember, even if they did have a monopoly, it’s because Linux just isn’t fucking good enough on the desktop to take it away from them.
“was just looking for things to not-change so their change log looks huge.
For fuck’s sake. Are you really that stupid?
“Linux, on the other hand, is honest.”
A pity then, that its most vocal advocates are not. And in this case, neither are Ubuntu.
Back to the point of the article; Ubuntu are proclaiming a whole new paradigm in the user interface. In reality, it’s a new wallpaper, losing the bottom taskbar and moving the window widgets.
If you winbreds could google you’d come across this link from the New York Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/04/opinion/microsoft-s-illegal-monopoly.html?pagewanted=1
As usual I am filling your empty hatetard brains with logic.
I still dont get how Microsoft could be considered a illegal monopoly as long as there a more than 3 operating systems out there. Maybe its time another operating system stepped up to the plate and provided a real challenge. Now if the topic was does Microsoft have Illegal, or wrong business tactics? I think most can agree on, yes.
Not these winbreds. If you even hint that the illegal monopoly is less than god they start wining like the little babies they are.
I don’t even know why you guys bother with Adam King. His purpose isn’t to discuss or to debate but to annoy you. He’d argue the world was flat if you stated it was round.
Hey, Adam Queef…the world is round. Your take?
If you winbreds could google you’d come across this link from the New York Times
Too bad the New York Times is a newpaper and not the Department of Justice! This has already been debated in the LHB, you lost that argument very badly. We’re not defending Microsoft, we’re pointing out your (and the NYTimes, it would seem) flagrant misuse of the term “illegal monopoly”. (The one you have stock in since you were calling it MSFT on the LHB).
The article you linked is 6 years old. I’d like to know what makes them an “illegal monopoly” in 2010, exactly, considering the vast choice of operating systems out there.
The article you linked is 6 years old.
Look again. It’s three weeks shy of being a decade old.
Adam King has obviously never had to deal with a monopoly. I had to pay £116 for a 45 minute train ride because First Great Western (this was last month) has a monopoly on rail travel. It would have been cheaper to rent a BMW for the day.
The UK are years behind the US and other parts of the world in computing as BT had a monopoly and steadfastly refused to even give cheap dial up, let alone broadband, for years. It took Ofcom to split them up and force them to allow competition before things could get better.
All these monopoly situations occur out of physical situations, such as there only being one set of rail lines, and one set of physical copper wires where putting in your own is simply not possible for a startup (financially and even physically).
Microsoft have *never* had a monopoly, to point out the definition (From the OSX dictionary no less) “the exclusive possession or control of the supply or trade in a commodity or service.” You have always been able to buy a Mac, Linux (and BSD) have existed as long Windows just about, you always had the choice of proprietary UNIX as well.
It categorically cannot be a monopoly if you have a choice. And it’s not necessarily Microsoft’s fault if the competition suck.
Oh, Adam, tell us your planned solution to this so you can make yourself seem even more ridiculous.
A preview for those not already in the know, Adam proposes a state sanctioned monopoly with a tax on computers to pay for ‘GovernmentOS’. You just know that’s going to work well.
Oh, and just because 99% of customers choose not to inform themselves in making a decision when buying a computer, it doesn’t make it a monopoly. If you choose to inform yourself there has always been many non MS options.
A true monopoly is where no matter how informed you are you are still stuck with only one option.
Okay Kerberos, can you like, please IP ban the guy who keeps posting under my name.
“If you winbreds could google you’d come across this link from the New York Times.”
If you could Google, you’d come across the actual findings of fact by Judge Jackson from the United States vs. Microsoft trial, rather than a ten year old opinion piece in the NYT.
Has anyone tried open bsd linux? Is it any better than ubuntu?
A preview for those not already in the know, Adam proposes a state sanctioned monopoly with a tax on computers to pay for ‘GovernmentOS’. You just know that’s going to work well.
It already exists. It’s called BSD.
@ Crispy Fried:
Open BSD isn’t Linux, in fact, no distribution of BSD is considered Linux. This is a common mistake, because Linux and BSD are very similar.
But no, Ubuntu is much better than Open BSD in terms of usability, supported applications, and everything else.
Don’t listen to Thomas B. He’s a little freetard who thinks women have cooties.
In answer to your question, Open BSD Linux is the best linux you can get. Not only is it much easier to use than Ubuntu shitting shitburgler, but it’s the most secure operating system known to man. Don’t believe me? Look it up. They take security very seriously over there.
Watch this comment get deleted by Keraboohoo.
http://linuxevangelism.blogspot.com/2009/09/kerabos.html
Congratulations, you’ve linked to your blog which still has that childish redirect browser sniffer. Fortunately, it is easily defeated.
Anybody notice this comment gets posted around the time queefer returns to LH saying that whoever posts here is not him? What an idiot.
@Adam: I usually delete it because you keep spamming it, and your crappy blog blocks just about every browser in existence. It even blocks BSD and Android (And god knows what else). It’s already in a dozen or so comments on here. We’ve seen it, very good, let it go.
What is the point of writing something, and then blocking anyone who doesn’t implicitly agree with your point already? Why not just write your inane babblings to a Word document and let that be the end of it? And why post it here? Why post a link nobody can read?
Also don’t think for a second I remove your posts because I am somehow scared of your truthiness, I generally remove them as they are barely above V1agr4 spam in terms of content. Plus if I really wanted to silence you I’d just IP ban you, since you (and your schizophrenic aliases) appear to have a static IP.
@Kerberos
It blocks Windows (of course haha), Mac OS X, BSD, Android (I thought android was somewhat linux?)….basically if it isnt Linux its not allowed in.
@Thomas B,
No, thinking BSD is Linux is not a “common mistake”. I have never heard that mistake made ever, before reading it here. Of course to an OpenSolaris Linux-using expert such as yourself, I guess that would make sense.
“Has anyone tried open bsd linux? Is it any better than ubuntu?”
Obvious sarcasm… Huge amount of fail with that answer TB. Only the fucking LY would:
1. Fall for that.
2. Say that seriously in the first place.
Don’t pretend open bsd linux doesn’t exist motherfucker. It’s the most motherfucking secure OS on the motherfucking planet and if you’re too motherfucking stupid to motherfucking see that then you should stick your head in a motherfucking toilet and motherfucking drown. Motherfucking linux is used in every motherfucking place where motherfucking security is motherfucking important. The motherfuckers who motherfucking make motherfucking open bsd linux motherfucking care about motherfucking security motherfucking more than motherfucking anything else.
Well, thanks Adam. I read your blog. It’s kinda like Linux Hater’s with all the profanity but not as funny or clever.
I’d forgive that if you actually refuted any of Piestar’s points, which you did not. Instead, your “response” to one of his quotes was “ARRRRRRURRHFGUH”.
It’s because of childish, angry fanboys like you that I left the community (well, others reasons featured too, but that’s a major one). Trying to convince me that the Linux community is wonderful and friendly while you display this behavior is like a pot-smoking, whoremongering nun trying to convince me of the virtues of Catholicism.
Good. Linux is not for retards like yourself.
The above poster is an imposter. I am the real Adam King. I do agree with him though. Linux is way too complicated for your hatetard brains.
marketing slogans for OSes:
MacOS: Think different.
Windows 7: Your PC, simplified.
Linux: Way too complicated for your hatetard brains.
I used to basically come here and argue for the lulz, but now this place is crap. There are all of these impostors, and it’s impossible to have a fair argument without all sorts of cheap shots.
Here’s a hint, there’s always a difference between you and him, try to guess what it is.
Disregard that, I suck cocks.
Well, he doesn’t know my email address, which allows me to still be the only one here with the Tux avatar, and the impostor doesn’t have a . after the B. It’s only a matter of time before he figures out my email though.