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	<title>Comments on: The Last Word On The Lucid Button Debacle</title>
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		<title>By: ByteC</title>
		<link>http://piestar.net/2010/06/01/the-last-word-on-the-lucid-button-debacle/#comment-9820</link>
		<dc:creator>ByteC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The windicators aren&#039;t original. Microsoft did it something similar 3 years ago, they called Ribbon:
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2862/windicators.jpg

And they dont move the min/res/close buttons to get thing work. That&#039;s design and usability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The windicators aren&#8217;t original. Microsoft did it something similar 3 years ago, they called Ribbon:<br />
<a href="http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2862/windicators.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2862/windicators.jpg</a></p>
<p>And they dont move the min/res/close buttons to get thing work. That&#8217;s design and usability.</p>
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		<title>By: Years behind and slowing fast. &#124; Piestar</title>
		<link>http://piestar.net/2010/06/01/the-last-word-on-the-lucid-button-debacle/#comment-8247</link>
		<dc:creator>Years behind and slowing fast. &#124; Piestar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 07:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] spot, but that&#8217;s only because they are copying Tiger rather than Snow Leopard.  Add in the recent pointless change of moving the window decorations to the left.  It&#8217;s all very [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] spot, but that&#8217;s only because they are copying Tiger rather than Snow Leopard.  Add in the recent pointless change of moving the window decorations to the left.  It&#8217;s all very [...]</p>
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		<title>By: naem</title>
		<link>http://piestar.net/2010/06/01/the-last-word-on-the-lucid-button-debacle/#comment-7816</link>
		<dc:creator>naem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoah.. what? 

i mean.. What? 

are you FOR og AGAINST linux?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoah.. what? </p>
<p>i mean.. What? </p>
<p>are you FOR og AGAINST linux?</p>
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		<title>By: Gilles Mioni</title>
		<link>http://piestar.net/2010/06/01/the-last-word-on-the-lucid-button-debacle/#comment-7814</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Mioni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But this is Linux all over, and what several people are now realizing.  It’s not some happy ‘everyone helps out’ commune, it’s a game of politics, infighting and power.&lt;/i&gt;

Really, I congratulate you. I always wondered if Linux distributions were made by human beings.
You answer so clearly to my final question:
Yes, they are men, theses peoples who had created and worked to produce these wtff distros.
They are ambitious, cynical and, above all, drunk on power.
Thank you very much!
May I ask you a question?
Obviously, you work hard to criticize  rightly all these annoying defects in linux distros. Don&#039;t you take the risk to be listen and your critics finally give a good help to improve their mess?
Actually aren&#039;t you a linux fan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But this is Linux all over, and what several people are now realizing.  It’s not some happy ‘everyone helps out’ commune, it’s a game of politics, infighting and power.</i></p>
<p>Really, I congratulate you. I always wondered if Linux distributions were made by human beings.<br />
You answer so clearly to my final question:<br />
Yes, they are men, theses peoples who had created and worked to produce these wtff distros.<br />
They are ambitious, cynical and, above all, drunk on power.<br />
Thank you very much!<br />
May I ask you a question?<br />
Obviously, you work hard to criticize  rightly all these annoying defects in linux distros. Don&#8217;t you take the risk to be listen and your critics finally give a good help to improve their mess?<br />
Actually aren&#8217;t you a linux fan?</p>
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		<title>By: :)</title>
		<link>http://piestar.net/2010/06/01/the-last-word-on-the-lucid-button-debacle/#comment-7717</link>
		<dc:creator>:)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Windows 7 does this – drag to the left it does 50% width, same with the right and drag to the top for full screen, which is fairly useful for multiple documents on a large monitor.&quot;

That&#039;s a nice feature, but not what I mean.  I mean when you drag a window to the lower-left corner of the screen, the left and bottom boundaries of the window should stop when they hit the edge, so you can quickly push a window out of the way, and it will resize so that the entire window is still on-screen and all scrollbars and content are still visible.

&quot;As far as the ‘windicators’ go, it sounds like he is just reinventing the status bar … but at the top.&quot;

True.  

&quot;Per app volume control is nice but Windows 7 already does this as well with it’s main volume control, presenting a control for each app in the main mixer.&quot;

Well Ubuntu does that, too, putting a control for each app inside the PulseAudio preferences.  The reason I like the Windicators volume control idea is that the controls are attached to the Window they control, instead of disembodied in another invisible place.  The title bar seems like the ideal place for stuff that applies to individual apps, but isn&#039;t controlled by those apps, like window management and volume controls.

&quot;Imagine if MS released a new version of Windows and they held a press conference announcing that the biggest highlight was a new wallpaper, colour scheme and redesigned buttons?&quot;

Isn&#039;t that pretty much what they did with Windows 7?  Regular people don&#039;t understand improvements to the underlying system, so Microsoft just stresses their new Aero theme and the ability to do tiling of windows, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Windows 7 does this – drag to the left it does 50% width, same with the right and drag to the top for full screen, which is fairly useful for multiple documents on a large monitor.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a nice feature, but not what I mean.  I mean when you drag a window to the lower-left corner of the screen, the left and bottom boundaries of the window should stop when they hit the edge, so you can quickly push a window out of the way, and it will resize so that the entire window is still on-screen and all scrollbars and content are still visible.</p>
<p>&#8220;As far as the ‘windicators’ go, it sounds like he is just reinventing the status bar … but at the top.&#8221;</p>
<p>True.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Per app volume control is nice but Windows 7 already does this as well with it’s main volume control, presenting a control for each app in the main mixer.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well Ubuntu does that, too, putting a control for each app inside the PulseAudio preferences.  The reason I like the Windicators volume control idea is that the controls are attached to the Window they control, instead of disembodied in another invisible place.  The title bar seems like the ideal place for stuff that applies to individual apps, but isn&#8217;t controlled by those apps, like window management and volume controls.</p>
<p>&#8220;Imagine if MS released a new version of Windows and they held a press conference announcing that the biggest highlight was a new wallpaper, colour scheme and redesigned buttons?&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that pretty much what they did with Windows 7?  Regular people don&#8217;t understand improvements to the underlying system, so Microsoft just stresses their new Aero theme and the ability to do tiling of windows, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: TM Repository</title>
		<link>http://piestar.net/2010/06/01/the-last-word-on-the-lucid-button-debacle/#comment-7700</link>
		<dc:creator>TM Repository</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 01:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;This blog services the interests of the illegal monopoly m$ that seeks to force everyone to use windows.&lt;/b&gt;

Real Adam King or not, this statement is pretty false since the author of this blog writes it from a mac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>This blog services the interests of the illegal monopoly m$ that seeks to force everyone to use windows.</b></p>
<p>Real Adam King or not, this statement is pretty false since the author of this blog writes it from a mac.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Loser</title>
		<link>http://piestar.net/2010/06/01/the-last-word-on-the-lucid-button-debacle/#comment-7698</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I checked out the Gnome usability link.  I&#039;m thinking the old Compuserve bulletin boards were easier to use.

If this is the Web interface to discussions about usability, what does that say about Gnome&#039;s commitment to the issue?

It&#039;s horribly reminiscent of the old Dilbert cartoon where the PHB admits that employees aren&#039;t, after all, the most important asset of the company.  They&#039;re at number 11 -- just below paperclips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked out the Gnome usability link.  I&#8217;m thinking the old Compuserve bulletin boards were easier to use.</p>
<p>If this is the Web interface to discussions about usability, what does that say about Gnome&#8217;s commitment to the issue?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s horribly reminiscent of the old Dilbert cartoon where the PHB admits that employees aren&#8217;t, after all, the most important asset of the company.  They&#8217;re at number 11 &#8212; just below paperclips.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Ham</title>
		<link>http://piestar.net/2010/06/01/the-last-word-on-the-lucid-button-debacle/#comment-7695</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Ham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I don’t know why you guys still take even the real Adam so seriously (even a little bit is too much).&lt;/em&gt;

True, I suspect it&#039;s because he&#039;s the only one left who bothers to even &lt;em&gt;try&lt;/em&gt; defending Linux, everyone else was beaten off a long time ago (in the comments on the LH&#039;s blog).

The reason no-one bothers arguing anymore is, of course, that Linux Hater and all the others have got it right, Linux aint that great and is particularly being held back by the &#039;community&#039; of dunderheaded fuckwits who insist -- very loudly -- that it&#039;s perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I don’t know why you guys still take even the real Adam so seriously (even a little bit is too much).</em></p>
<p>True, I suspect it&#8217;s because he&#8217;s the only one left who bothers to even <em>try</em> defending Linux, everyone else was beaten off a long time ago (in the comments on the LH&#8217;s blog).</p>
<p>The reason no-one bothers arguing anymore is, of course, that Linux Hater and all the others have got it right, Linux aint that great and is particularly being held back by the &#8216;community&#8217; of dunderheaded fuckwits who insist &#8212; very loudly &#8212; that it&#8217;s perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://piestar.net/2010/06/01/the-last-word-on-the-lucid-button-debacle/#comment-7694</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 04:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least one, if not both, of these Adam Kings is an impersonator. One put &quot;www&quot; in his link and the other didn&#039;t. If it was the same person I&#039;d imagine they&#039;d just let autocomplete do the job.

Either way, I don&#039;t know why you guys still take even the real Adam so seriously (even a little bit is too much).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least one, if not both, of these Adam Kings is an impersonator. One put &#8220;www&#8221; in his link and the other didn&#8217;t. If it was the same person I&#8217;d imagine they&#8217;d just let autocomplete do the job.</p>
<p>Either way, I don&#8217;t know why you guys still take even the real Adam so seriously (even a little bit is too much).</p>
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		<title>By: naem</title>
		<link>http://piestar.net/2010/06/01/the-last-word-on-the-lucid-button-debacle/#comment-7693</link>
		<dc:creator>naem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 00:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me for threadjacking, but could kharkalash please post one of his great posts? and preferably under the &quot;kharkalash&quot; (... or whatever. :/ ) name.

i&#039;d kinda like to see if we could get Oiahohm (.. again: or whatever) back in the game, and he has a funny way of resurfacing whenever khark* posts anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me for threadjacking, but could kharkalash please post one of his great posts? and preferably under the &#8220;kharkalash&#8221; (&#8230; or whatever. :/ ) name.</p>
<p>i&#8217;d kinda like to see if we could get Oiahohm (.. again: or whatever) back in the game, and he has a funny way of resurfacing whenever khark* posts anything.</p>
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